tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post6470095366259548316..comments2023-07-12T08:35:07.474-07:00Comments on Lit Lovers & Corset Laces: Oh, Rochester!LitLoverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-17046033662204701722015-12-03T13:41:29.242-08:002015-12-03T13:41:29.242-08:00Timothy Dalton all the way... It's true that &...Timothy Dalton all the way... It's true that "He also didn't have a very good Jane to work with."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01599747719129964228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-46947319513953398472014-02-20T13:12:42.091-08:002014-02-20T13:12:42.091-08:00Fassbender was an amazing Rochester...but I agree ...Fassbender was an amazing Rochester...but I agree on the fact that he was way too sexy lol.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-32568626382506828232012-04-22T13:18:27.421-07:002012-04-22T13:18:27.421-07:00@Echo: First off, welcome to the blog. I don't...@Echo: First off, welcome to the blog. I don't believe I've seen you around before and I'm already loving how you have so much to offer. :)<br /><br />I think you're one of the first representatives of the 1997 adaptation that's dropped by. Most people who comment are either fans of the '83, '06, or '11. As you can tell, I'm kind of harsh when it comes to the '97 because of Ciaran Hinds' portrayal. I must admit that I'm kind of a stickler for accuracy in some aspects and the '97 had too many gaps for me to ever really warm up to it, but at the same time I can easily see how fans like you are attached to it. <br /><br />Morton's performance was absolutely stunning. She was one of my favorite Janes, in fact. As for Hinds, I think he was too old for the part and the way he approached Rochester just wasn't what I personally had imagined. I think if I was to choose the perfect image of my mental Rochester, he'd look nothing like Hinds. Grant it, he wouldn't look like the fair, green eyed Fassbender either, I must admit. <br /><br />As for your analysis of the kiss, I loved reading it. I've never really looked at it that way before. I'm glad you've stopped by and I'd love to see you around more! Feel free to comment on anything else. :)LitLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-23351966630907127202012-04-18T22:43:52.055-07:002012-04-18T22:43:52.055-07:00I've seen only the Samantha Morton/Ciaran Hind...I've seen only the Samantha Morton/Ciaran Hinds and the Mia Wasikowska/Michael Fassbender versions, and though the latter is absolutely gorgeous as a film, I found it devoid of the gruff playfulness that I so enjoy in the banter between Jane and Rochester. Rochester, to me, is quite the drama queen, with big emotions and a penchant for melodramatic flourishes. The man, after all, went so far as to dress himself up as a gypsy fortuneteller in hopes of getting Jane to divulge her feelings for him. What a riot.<br /><br />Unfortunately, in Cary Fukunaga's verision, Michael Fassbender was all moody intensity and Mia was much too prettied up to be plain Jane. I actually adore the Morton/Hinds version precisely because it captured the gruff banter and rough passion between the two. He barked, teased, bellowed, yet was coy. Yes, that coyness was missing in the Cary Fukunaga adaptation. And that Ciaran Hinds is unconventionally and ruggedly handsome certainly helped. Michael Fassbender? Much too gorgeous, even pretty. <br /><br />As for the kiss scene you found so unappealing, I was actually stumped because I didn't remember such a scene, then realized why the disconnect. The Hinds/Morton version chose to present that scene not as a kiss but as a consummation of their desire, which I found so perfect in so many ways. For one thing, Rochester does nearly consume Jane (and would have had his plan succeeded). She too wants to be consumed by such passions, so that they are far from pretty together. Certainly not tender. The Hinds/Morton version deftly depicted the passionate abandon in this Victorian novel, all whilst remaining a family-safe television adaptation. I didn't catch the innuendos when I was younger, but I was quite shocked when I saw this adaptation again but as an adult. So hope that sheds a different light on the Hinds/Morton adaptation.echo0918https://www.blogger.com/profile/04952043434606533144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-50271829332123917322012-04-13T05:27:28.138-07:002012-04-13T05:27:28.138-07:00Toby Stephens is fantastic as Edward Fairfax Roche...Toby Stephens is fantastic as Edward Fairfax Rochester. Toby played Rochester with the right amount of darkness, humor and tenderness as was just right for the character. Toby also looked right to play Rochester as well. I also love the chemistry between Ruth & Toby! xKate Gormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02981103578975768299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-11010400475827022582012-02-27T18:23:59.191-08:002012-02-27T18:23:59.191-08:00Toby the best ROCHESTERToby the best ROCHESTERAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-37353527099521037972011-12-13T19:04:15.723-08:002011-12-13T19:04:15.723-08:00All those guys! How to choose? It's better t...All those guys! How to choose? It's better than a box of chocolates! Scott gave an excellent interpretation to the role. Dalton was over the top. Hurt and Jayston were OK - in fact, I was very impressed with Jayston in the church scene where he hears the footsteps of doom. Hinds had that nasty mustache - ewww! I think it was worse than Fassbander's beard. Toby made me swoon with that bed scene - ahhhh! Yum yum yummy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-31029435143631764852011-09-11T10:19:06.722-07:002011-09-11T10:19:06.722-07:00I hated the Orson Welles version I'm afraid, t...I hated the Orson Welles version I'm afraid, they didn't even try to stick to the story--tooo much artistic licence there all together!! I concur Dalton, Stevens and Fassbender are the best and rolled into one wowwwwwww Charlotte's description though always leaves me with a sense of this rugged sexiness, not neccesarily hunky good looking, but raw and strong, I thought these 3 portrayed that really well because they are classicly "beautiful" men, drop dead gorgeous for me but many a girl would rather have Tom Hanks or Mel Gibson or one of the cat walk models, those men who have that classical beuty that our Rochesters haven't got. I must admit I haven't seen Charlton Heston as Rochester, neither do I particularly want to--he's just not Rochester! I did like William Hurt, but yes he was too old and brooding and again far too much artistic licence was taken in the changing of the story--miss things out if they must but why change the story? Toby and Tim I suppose are my favoutites of all time and the adaptations of the story were pretty faithful too. As for Michaels beard---YUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKnuttynursehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04125386332767726203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-55800470896851629652011-08-29T14:01:02.211-07:002011-08-29T14:01:02.211-07:00I do like the '70 version as a whole, and I di...I do like the '70 version as a whole, and I did like George C. Scott as Rochester. He just wasn't the best. I am a sucker for authenticity; especially when it comes to age. Rochester was no more than thirty-eight years old, and to see someone older than that playing him takes away from the reality of the actual novel.LitLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-727329369505644482011-08-28T20:52:18.515-07:002011-08-28T20:52:18.515-07:00Great post! I have to weigh in on this, cannot re...Great post! I have to weigh in on this, cannot resist. Jane Eyre was the first adult novel I read as a 12-year-old, and I still remember reading it late into the summer night and sobbing out loud...what an amazing book. I am 50+ so the George C. Scott version was the one I saw first, in the 70s...being so young, I didn't judge his physical appearance in terms of age. Twenty years older? They often exaggerated facts, one way or the other. Scott embodied Rochester's character for me. Rugged, not handsome, older...no, it was not a perfect performance, but I always picture Scott as Rochester, when I think of it....Rochester CANNOT be handsome, young, or anything other than repulsively attractive and attractive only AFTER you find out he loves Jane. He had a lot of mileage on him, what with the carousing about Europe, consorting with the outer edges of French society and escaping the sordid past. Certainly Susanna York's acting was fine as Jane, but she did seem to old for the part. And William Hurt was an utter travesty. He should have been cast as the milque toast St. John....Ciaran Hinds had the best LOOKS for Rochester, if only he were OLDER. Such a disappointing group of films, one way and another, for one reason or another....I suppose we will just have to wait for the definitive version!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-16138397740861570212011-06-13T09:37:41.008-07:002011-06-13T09:37:41.008-07:00That seems to be the problem with adapting Jane Ey...That seems to be the problem with adapting Jane Eyre to the screen. There are so many fans that have different perceptions of how Rochester should be and they get VERY protective over their mental image of him. It's almost impossible to cast him in a way that would please everyone. But you're right. Each of these Rochesters have an element of Rochester that stands out above the rest, but none of them have all the elements in complete unity. *sigh*LitLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-78294505812715993972011-06-13T02:40:40.215-07:002011-06-13T02:40:40.215-07:00GREAT comparison of all the "Rochesters"...GREAT comparison of all the "Rochesters"! Put them all together and you 'almost' have him, although he's still "not there". He'd be a hard one to cast and I almost think you'd have to have an unknown to do it properly. Only a group of true Rochester fanatics could cast him perfectly, in my opinion.Tara Bradleyhttps://sites.google.com/site/janeeyreshusband/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-89879145200415648332011-06-04T09:02:40.816-07:002011-06-04T09:02:40.816-07:00Those videos are great. There's also a new tra...Those videos are great. There's also a new trailer that was just released for the UK yesterday. It's quite different from the American trailer so I found myself watching it once or twice...or three times...LitLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-59637272450258475492011-05-21T07:01:34.185-07:002011-05-21T07:01:34.185-07:00Oh everyone thinks I'm nuts for seeing it mult...Oh everyone thinks I'm nuts for seeing it multiple times! I do it with many movies, but honestly I haven't in a while, and I don't see why we shouldn't. There is nothing wrong with watching movies over and over!<br /><br />I agree, there is that change in him that seems almost comical, but it's something he yearns for throughout the entire book, before you get there anyway, and it's something he does do in the text. <br /><br />Have you seen these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elta5kWnQFY ? There are a few behind-the-scenes videos, although it doesn't seem that there is any audio to go with it, they're quite nice. It's something to get us through to the DVD release anyway!katerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08554268228492321686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-7959517607132858962011-05-18T17:17:16.355-07:002011-05-18T17:17:16.355-07:00@Ruth: I would definitely recommend going through ...@Ruth: I would definitely recommend going through them again. I've watched each one more than once...actually more than twice lol. Each time I find something different that I like or dislike. <br /><br />@Rachel: Most likely this ISN'T going to be my last post because sometimes I just can't contain my enthusiasm for the book. I actually stumbled upon all these versions on a boring summer's day with nothing else to do and ended up spending the whole day watching them. There's also one way back from 1934 but it's so horrible that it was more like a spoof than an adaption. <br /><br />@Kater: Word's can't explain how excited I was when I read your post! People thought I was crazy because I went to see the movie three times (and plan on going to see it a fourth) but it was just so good! The "keep it" scene had "Rochester" written all over it for me...and the part where he says "precisely, that's how she charmed my english money out of my english pocket" lol. He has this sarcastic broodiness that nails Rochester spot-on. The great thing about him though is that he doesn't dwell on JUST the brooding side of Rochester. He brings versatility because he had that subtle vulnerability. The leaving scene had me in tears. Both of them nailed every expression, movement, and tone. Gosh...Anyway, enough of my rambling lol. Words can't explain how glad I am that you like the post and agree with me.LitLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-88451064098055209632011-05-17T18:38:31.072-07:002011-05-17T18:38:31.072-07:00First, thank you so much for your comment! I was s...First, thank you so much for your comment! I was so excited to get it, and then when I came to your blog I nearly died of happiness because you feel as I do about this movie!<br /><br />My issues with the movies, since there are so many, are weird because I've seen almost all of them and felt lukewarm and even downright MEH about most of them :p I saw the 1944 version when I was about 6, and oh my goodness, it has frightened me for life. I kind of, well I feel awkward about this, I kind of hated almost every other version of it, so I was a bit skeptical when this came around. <br /><br />THE THING IS, the two scenes you outlined in the most recent version are two of my favorites! I saw it most recently with some friends, and I was trying to explain myself, and they just didn't get it. He is so irritated and grumpy with his skulking by the piano, his inexplicably harsh 'keep it', so perfect! <br /><br />And the leaving scene almost killed me. I don't know, it's just, ugh. You can really see how badly they're both fighting against each other and themselves. <br /><br />I excuse the good looking Rochester's by justifying that we're supposed to feel about him the way Jane does, so who cares a bit if he's good looking!<br /><br />What I mean to say is, in your other post about all the movies, and here, and several, I feel the same!katerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08554268228492321686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-87682067155287282392011-05-17T14:31:10.863-07:002011-05-17T14:31:10.863-07:00Neither did I! But wow, he is someone else I had ...Neither did I! But wow, he is someone else I had a major crush on when I was young - especially in "The Greatest Show on Earth". I have to admit that my obsession with Jane Eyre centered on the book and the Timothy Dalton version. I had no idea there were so many other versions! Thank you, now that's what I'm going to be doing all summer... Great breakdown though! And I don't think it should be your last post on Jane Eyre either... :)Rachel Lohrmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10731205238593595126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-62689589845671401742011-05-11T10:11:44.081-07:002011-05-11T10:11:44.081-07:00I had no idea Charlton Heston played Rochester in ...I had no idea Charlton Heston played Rochester in a made-for-TV Jane! How funny!<br /><br />Great post - I need to revisit some of these versions!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11986319237275869540noreply@blogger.com