tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post5290683364626035436..comments2023-07-12T08:35:07.474-07:00Comments on Lit Lovers & Corset Laces: Top 10 "Jane Eyre" ProposalsLitLoverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-83160178684656965312013-07-26T10:05:25.852-07:002013-07-26T10:05:25.852-07:00I think that your view of Rochester is based on yo...I think that your view of Rochester is based on your view of men.....I prefer 1983 I suspect because of my age and I grew up with tough 'shielded' defended men like Dalton, as in contrast to 2006 more vulnerable men like Stephens. of course 2011 combines the tough and the vulnerable<br />....Fassbender cries twice....excellent acting.....check out Scott 1970 for a stalwart type,also excellent acting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-484277753168541802012-01-20T08:57:32.563-08:002012-01-20T08:57:32.563-08:00@Melody: My favorite is without a doubt the 2011. ...@Melody: My favorite is without a doubt the 2011. And Ruth Wilson does seem very overdramatic in the '06, but the rawness of emotion was something that I really admired. After all, Jane is such a reserved figure and when she does come out with her feelings perhaps it's just as passionate. <br /><br />I'll be the first to admit that I'm hard on the '96. The whole movie just seemed characterized by bad acting on the part of Charlotte Gainsbourg and it disappointed me sourly. William hurt wasn't that bad, but he was too old and the film was just a mess to me. I didn't really feel any of the emotion that Jane Eyre is so packed with. <br /><br />'97: I don't like Hinds as Rochester any more than you do, and I've voiced it in every occasion I can. In retrospect, I must admit that I don't really know why I ranked the '97 scene so high. The only explanation I have for that is that Jane Eyre adaptations fluctuate in my mind. I might look at it one week and find something about it that I love and then two weeks later I will point out all its defects. The only adaptations I'm truly concrete about are the 2011, 1983, and 1970 (no, not even the '06). <br /><br />The 2011 captured the essence of the proposal perfectly. I was watching it last night and I marveled at just how perfectly the chemistry of the actors matched in every aspect. It was the little things that really made the story believable such as that moment Rochester and Jane come euphorically scampering through the foyer after the proposal holding hands and (as you mentioned) that rare smile Jane issues to Mrs. Fairfax. Michael Fassbender was a great Rochester in every aspect, though others will readily disagree with me.LitLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-57119553309185088802012-01-14T21:34:47.152-08:002012-01-14T21:34:47.152-08:00Well, I must comment, because you pleaded. haha
Th...Well, I must comment, because you pleaded. haha<br />The proposal is SUCH an important part of Jane Eyre! None of them even come close to the book. I liked the movies before I read the book, but when I read it...wow. <br /><br />My favorite is probably the 2011 one, although the 2006 was very good. Something about Ruth Wilson though seemed too... whiny. Well, not exactly; I can't really explain it. Actually, I watched the proposal scene by itself one time and it struck me that way, but when I saw the movie up to that point it didn't bug me as much. Guess I had to get the momentum and all that. <br />Least favorite is definitely the 30s version. Haa haaa! I didn't even watch the whole movie. But what I did watch was ridiculous! Follies and nonsense, whims and inconsistencies! It was diverting if nothing else.<br />I would rate the 1996 version higher than you did. I didn't really like that Rochester very much...not at all like the book...but it did seem to have a lot of emotion. After that point though, when it jumps straight to the wedding, and then straight to Thornfield burning, I am very generous with my irritation. <br />1997...I can't stand Ciaran Hinds as Mr. Rochester. I just can't. And Samantha Morton--aka Harriet Smith--after I read the book I didn't like her as Jane, either. The whole movie's altered dialogue annoyed me excessively. The dialogue in the book is really good. Don't change it! Leaving stuff out is bad enough!<br />Perhaps I would have liked the 1970 version better if it hadn't happened right after the Mason thing and Jane was in her nightgown? And besides, in the book Jane got dressed before she went to help with Mason. Bah. <br />The 2011 version wasn't perfect either, but at least they got the 'poor, obscure, plain, and little' quote right, which many of the others failed to do. I also loved how Jane smiled at Mrs. Fairfax and went running up the stairs, just like the book said! Plus I just like that Rochester better than the others. <br /><br />Well, I need to get off. =)Melodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05676306236172688321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-5209156461274098362011-10-03T16:59:35.511-07:002011-10-03T16:59:35.511-07:00Yes it really is. I also reallllyyy liked the 2011...Yes it really is. I also reallllyyy liked the 2011 version. It was hard to choose. But you're right. Toby and Ruth have excellent chemistry on screen the proposal and the kiss afterwards were done beautifully.LitLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-36755900168271454242011-10-03T07:07:42.453-07:002011-10-03T07:07:42.453-07:00I LOVE the proposal scene because it is moving, h...I LOVE the proposal scene because it is moving, heartbreaking, passionate and romantic all at the same time. When I saw the proposal scene on TV I thought, 'At last it has been acted out exactly how I have always imaged it inside my head for years when reading the novel.' I also love the scene where they are running through the rain, all happy, giddy and in love and every time Edward says, 'Goodnight, my darling.' to Jane, I feel so happy because again it is how I pictured it, I want to Jane kissing Edward passionately as well. *sigh* <br /><br />The proposal scene is beautifully acted by both Toby and Ruth.Katenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-45187081644090547002011-09-27T10:30:40.375-07:002011-09-27T10:30:40.375-07:00I thought Zelah wasn't bad. Not good, but not ...I thought Zelah wasn't bad. Not good, but not bad either. I guess my problem is that I have big problems with Toby's (or rather Sandy Welch's) interpretation of Rochester, so even though he acted his socks off it didn't satisfy me.<br /><br />Michael F.'s kisses on the stairs were lovely, as was the way they ate each other up during the fantasy snow scene. I just felt the kiss right after the proposal was a bit too close-lipped. It got better the longer it went on. I've seen Michael kiss Christina Cole (Blanche in JE06!) in Hex and that was much more sensual.<br /><br />I'm looking forward to your other rankings!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-47444737061865039522011-09-26T13:45:05.992-07:002011-09-26T13:45:05.992-07:00@Robas: Yes, you are right!!! The language was a m...@Robas: Yes, you are right!!! The language was a major setback. But to defend myself, I can't tell you HOW hard I fought to keep from placing the '11 in first place. The '83 I probably wouldn't have moved. Timothy was sheer perfection, but he was only one half of that scene. Zelah's half just didn't do it for me. Despite the butchered language in the '06, I could safely say that both leads both had strong performances in the scenes whereas the '83 was pretty one-sided.<br />The kiss is very important. I liked the '06 kiss for the reason that it was really imperfect. In fact, the whole scene was beautiful because of its imperfections. It was just human. But it seems as though we differ on kissing. I LOVED Michael Fassbender's kiss (especially the one on the stairs). But I also loved Timothy Dalton's kiss too, so in that we may agree. The top 3 are always the hardest to rank. But don't worry, I'll be ranking other scenes for the weeks to come and the '83 does end up claiming first in one of them.LitLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-68014371313432696772011-09-26T13:36:36.339-07:002011-09-26T13:36:36.339-07:00@Joy: I don't think the 1934 could ever be any...@Joy: I don't think the 1934 could ever be anything BUT last. I had a hard time figuring out which to rank first out of the '06 and '11. It was a hard call but I tried not to be to biased by the fact that the '11 is the one I saw most recently and also seem to love the most. The '11 was very near perfect but it came second because in the end there was something missing. I think it was mostly on Mia's side. I liked her forcefulness but when she said "it strikes me with anguish to be torn from you" there was something just a little wanting; I think it was more vulnerability. <br />I could understand how you feel about Timothy Dalton. Some people don't really like the '83 proposal and I didn't at first, but it grew on me. Timothy was just such a strong Rochester and the weirdness worked for me. Rochester is a weird person at certain points, ha ha. As for William Hurt, ditto. I thought he was yawning his way through the proposal.LitLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00821079080870387396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-47471496329012192192011-09-26T11:53:01.042-07:002011-09-26T11:53:01.042-07:00Nice choices! My top three would be the same, but ...Nice choices! My top three would be the same, but in a different order. JE06 would come in third, especially because of the (in my eyes) butchered language, even though Ruth is acting her socks off. The kiss is wide off the mark though. <br /><br />And two and one would be a toss up between JE83 and JE11. As you say, Tim is amazing and he is the only one who knows how to kiss a girl. Michael's kisses are a bit too chaste and close lipped for my taste. The rest of the proposal is lovely though.<br /><br />It's a shame almost every adaptation leaves out the first kiss during the So and Yet Not So bit. JE73 included it, but as you say that proposal is bland and I don't like Michael's (Jayston) interpretation either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1527055233332626167.post-88904182364827262342011-09-25T19:37:29.142-07:002011-09-25T19:37:29.142-07:00I went through a while back and watched most of th...I went through a while back and watched most of the proposal scenes myself. I agree that the 2006 and the 2011 versions should be the top (although, as I'm sure you'll have guessed, I would reverse their order, haha), and the 1934 should 150% be last because it was just horrid. So, so, so bad. I don't know if I would be able to put Timothy Dalton's Rochester anywhere near the top three though...I just couldn't get over that awkward Timothy Dalton facial expression he always does through the whole thing. I actually didn't mind Charlotte Gainsbourg's Jane, but oh my...William Hurt. He must have had a reaaallly long day on set to look that sleepy. Or maybe he just was really bored with the subject matter (gasp! How could he?).Joy Soltyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06587287005275347942noreply@blogger.com